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Talk about the mystery man here! I admit, I find him intriguing.

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I really find him quite interesting.

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"18 years Macy. That would have made you a lieutenant in the marine core. Gibbs would still have been a gunny..."

I wonder what the past is exactly between Macy, Gibbs and Callen. It would be very interesting to find out.

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I agree. There was something somewhere that said that Callen is younger than Sam...but I get the feeling that he's older, at least in his soul. He should by all rights be in his 40s.

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That would make sense, Pam. IRL, O'Donnell is 39.

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I love this man!

He used to play McVet on grey's. But i like him more in this role.

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Did anyone hear in the first episode what G said to Hetty.

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I wonder what the 'G' does stand for in his name. My sister and I have been trying to figure that out for days now.

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I think that he only knows that his first name starts with a G, but he doesn't have clue what his name is.

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It's probably something like "Gertrude."

Some guys get all flustered to admit they have a name usually considered a feminine name. :D

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But G. Cullen probably isn't even his name. That dirty old blanket thing in the pilot... It had G. Cullen on it.

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he is my favorite he is like Tony is personify bad past funny character same the friendship with same is kind of like Tony and Mcgee but I really want to know about his past.

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he is my favorite he is like Tony is personify bad past funny character same the friendship with same is kind of like Tony and Mcgee but I really want to know about his past.


Abbygirl, could you please be careful with your posts; checking your spelling and putting in punctuation? I can't figure out what you're trying to say here.

If you're using Internet Explorer (or probably most other browsers), you can install a Google toolbar. The Google toolbar has a spell check function that can help you. :)

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believe me Pam I do that a lot.
He is my favorite he is like Tony in some ways
1. same personality
2. Bad past
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4. the friendship with sam is kind of like Tony and McGee
but I really want to know about his past.

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Ah, that's much better. :)

I agree with you on a lot of those points. He has a background that's not only mysterious, but also seems rather exotic. I don't like him nearly as much as I like Sam, but he still is appealing.

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There will surely be more known about G as the new season airs. I can't wait to see how his past will be aired out in the next season!

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Callen is who drew me to NCIS:LA. His eyes are very expressive. In the last few episodes, Chris O'Donnell played his butt off.

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He's a great character. Reminds me of a more mature Tony or a younger Gibbs. His friendship with Sam is made of win. I don't slash, but I can see why people are fans of that pairing.

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Same here Barbara. I love his interaction with Sam. Those two have some of the funniest converstations. I'm not a big fan of slash but I can see why as well.

Callen is so mysterous that is draws people in.

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So now we know
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G's name: Гриша Александрович Николаев / Grisha Aleksandrovich Nikolayev.


I'm thinkin' he's gonna be remaining 'G' - for some reason I don't see him as a
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I thought he was supposed to be Romanian? That's a very Slavic name.

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would be a highly unlikely given name, in my experience - it's a diminutive. The rest of the name is formatted as a Russian proper, full name (with a patronymic and surname) and so the first name should be in its full form, which would be
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Григорий/Grigoriy, so Gregory or Greg in English.
I don't know offhand how it works in other Slavic countries, but if parents wanted that as the name for their child in Russia, they would use the full name as the official name and use the diminutive as the regular name. It's just how it works. I don't know if it's changed in recent years, but when G was born, he could not have been officially given a diminutive as his given name, it wouldn't have been allowed.

Also, diminutive + patronymic is ridiculous in Russian. Those are two wildly different levels of formality. Depending on how charitable the listener, it either comes off as some kind of joke or as a mistake, possibly as disrespectful. I can't think of a really good English equivalent, but think of it along the lines of pairing a formal title with a silly pet name.

I mean, who am I kidding, I doubt they did any research for this :rolleyes: they just picked a name they liked that began with the right letter. But if you want to use it correctly, then the diminutive is for friends and relatives, full name + patronymic is formal and polite. Diminutive + patronymic = wrong. (As supposedly fluent speakers of Russian, this is something Hetty and G should both be well aware of.)

As far as I know, Romania has no such system when it comes to patronymics; the format of his name is, besides the error, Russian. A quick Google suggests the Romanian form of the name would be something along the lines of
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I thought he was supposed to be Romanian? That's a very Slavic name.

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would be a highly unlikely given name, in my experience - it's a diminutive. The rest of the name is formatted as a Russian proper, full name (with a patronymic and surname) and so the first name should be in its full form, which would be
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Григорий/Grigoriy, so Gregory or Greg in English.
I don't know offhand how it works in other Slavic countries, but if parents wanted that as the name for their child in Russia, they would use the full name as the official name and use the diminutive as the regular name. It's just how it works. I don't know if it's changed in recent years, but when G was born, he could not have been officially given a diminutive as his given name, it wouldn't have been allowed.

Also, diminutive + patronymic is ridiculous in Russian. Those are two wildly different levels of formality. Depending on how charitable the listener, it either comes off as some kind of joke or as a mistake, possibly as disrespectful. I can't think of a really good English equivalent, but think of it along the lines of pairing a formal title with a silly pet name.

I mean, who am I kidding, I doubt they did any research for this :rolleyes: they just picked a name they liked that began with the right letter. But if you want to use it correctly, then the diminutive is for friends and relatives, full name + patronymic is formal and polite. Diminutive + patronymic = wrong. (As supposedly fluent speakers of Russian, this is something Hetty and G should both be well aware of.)

As far as I know, Romania has no such system when it comes to patronymics; the format of his name is, besides the error, Russian. A quick Google suggests the Romanian form of the name would be something along the lines of
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Grigore or Gligor.

Or ... this is an NCIS franchise. Like US politics, they don't let reality stop them! :P

I was watching more than listening last night, but they were in Russia, and I think they've decided now Callen is more Russian (or at least his dad is/was) than Romanian, haven't they, despite the whole Hettie-goes-to-Romania arc? :confusion-scratchheadyellow: :confusion-shrug:

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this violates of my rules of good writing... if you include factual information, get it right: Yes, some countries have very strict rules for how names are given. Since G is pushing fifty, he's someone who would definitely have had a proper formal name.

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I'm sure they wouldn't let reality stop them :rofl: but I have serious doubts anyone thought to do research then dismiss it when the other option was not to do research :rolleyes: ;)

I am way behind, but that given name strongly suggests Russia or similar, so it makes a lot of sense if Callen or at least his dad was Russian by ethnicity. In which case the name makes way more sense, but still wouldn't be used how they're using it. If you use the name in the accepted format, instead of messing with levels of formality, it does at least work as a Russian name. They could have done worse; at least they didn't name him Geoffrey or Gordon or something...

Blue: Exactly. I don't know for sure if things have changed, but from my knowledge of when things worked the way I'm familiar with, I'd estimate anyone over thirty or so would have been named under that system. There's no way in the world his official given name would be Grisha. (And that's even assuming things have changed, as far as I know the same rules apply to babies born today.) The system of formal/informal modes of address and how diminutives are used is one of the reasons many people find Tolstoy and co confusing to read at first, because unless you understand how the names relate to one another, it seems like each character has a fistful of names - even worse if the characters are nobility, and have titles on top of the given names.

Given the levels of formality on the show, if they went with any remotely credible way of handling it, the team would call him by the diminutive or by his given name depending on the situation, Hetty (in keeping with her use of Mr Callen, Mr Deeks, etc) would use full name or full name plus patronymic most of the time. I think Granger would err on the side of Hetty's usage - I can't imagine him using a diminutive for G. (I mean, he calls Hetty Henrietta most of the time, he doesn't seem like he'd use a pet name with a male subordinate!) I'd suggest the team (especially Sam) would most often use the diminutive, ditto Nell and Eric in casual situations.

No one who had any knowledge of Russian would call him diminutive + patronymic.

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this violates of my rules of good writing... if you include factual information, get it right: Yes, some countries have very strict rules for how names are given. Since G is pushing fifty, he's someone who would definitely have had a proper formal name.

Oh, yeah -- when a show that makes as much cash as NCIS/NCISLA/NCISNOLA doesn't pay a few bucks to a consultant to get things right, it makes you wonder why they don't bother - do they really think that with millions of viewers, SOMEONE won't miss a gaffe of the basics the size of Texas??

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Name Grisha generally means Watchful or Vigilant or Alert, is of Russian origin, Russian Гриша,

Russian names generally consist of three names. A given name, a patronymic name and a family name. A patronymic name is based on the name of one's father, grandfather, or earlier male ancestor. Russian male patronymic names are formed by adding the suffex -evich or -ovich,

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this violates of my rules of good writing... if you include factual information, get it right: Yes, some countries have very strict rules for how names are given. Since G is pushing fifty, he's someone who would definitely have had a proper formal name.

Oh, yeah -- when a show that makes as much cash as NCIS/NCISLA/NCISNOLA doesn't pay a few bucks to a consultant to get things right, it makes you wonder why they don't bother - do they really think that with millions of viewers, SOMEONE won't miss a gaffe of the basics the size of Texas??


THIS!!!!

I mean, what does it take to think through things properly for once?

Hell, it would have been better if they'd just named him Gregory. Or George... Or something utterly off the wall, since his parentage is so completely whacked... Maybe they should have called him Gregor...

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My headcanon is going to be that he's called Григорий/Gregory. It's more or less the only way to make sense of that name.

Given some of the mangling of Russian (and other languages) on all iterations of the show, I count it borderline miraculous when they get something right. When Gibbs and Callen spoke Russian in 'Legend' and it actually made sense, I nearly fell off my chair.

It is a shame; they'd do a better job just finding a local Russian speaker or a graduate in Russian and at least running stuff past them to weed out the worst mistakes. Hell, I think some of the errors could literally have been avoided by spending five minutes on Google, and some of the Russian is worse than Google translate :rolleyes:

They are by no means alone in their disregard for basic facts, but you'd hope such a prolific and profitable franchise could spend more than thirty seconds researching a basic fact about the main character :rolleyes:

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They are by no means alone in their disregard for basic facts, but you'd hope such a prolific and profitable franchise could spend more than thirty seconds researching a basic fact about the main character :rolleyes:

Yeah, wind me up & get me ranting again about their major mis-handling of a first-week-of-law-school legal concept on NCIS upon which the whole plot turned. They could have called some crew member's cousin's paralegal girlfriend and have been waved off that wrong call.

With that particularly egregious snafu, I have to wonder if someone told them the real life info, and because it wouldn't give them the result they wanted, they figured, "hey, we're popular, MH and MW are hot; who's gonna care if we take artistic license?"
Just ... no. :gah:

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. When Gibbs and Callen spoke Russian in 'Legend' and it actually made sense, I nearly fell off my chair.


Sad when it's come to that, isn't it? Don't you wish the show runners lurked on sites like this?


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They are by no means alone in their disregard for basic facts, but you'd hope such a prolific and profitable franchise could spend more than thirty seconds researching a basic fact about the main character :rolleyes:

Personally, I think they have contempt for their viewers. After all, we're just a bunch of dumb women who will watch anything if there's pretty bwois, right? :banghead:

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With that particularly egregious snafu, I have to wonder if someone told them the real life info, and because it wouldn't give them the result they wanted, they figured, "hey, we're popular, MH and MW are hot; who's gonna care if we take artistic license?"

Sadly, if I learned this was the exact thought process, I would not be surprised.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:07 am 
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With that particularly egregious snafu, I have to wonder if someone told them the real life info, and because it wouldn't give them the result they wanted, they figured, "hey, we're popular, MH and MW are hot; who's gonna care if we take artistic license?"

Sadly, if I learned this was the exact thought process, I would not be surprised.


Personally, I think a lot of 'artistic license' is just lazy writing.

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G's name: Гриша Александрович Николаев / Grisha Aleksandrovich Nikolayev.



So that's his name... I wasn't expecting that, but then again I've got several season to catch up on. Maybe Netflix will throw it up on the queue, if they haven't already. ;D

I have watched an LA ep here and there, and Callen has always intrigued me. I've always loved Chris O'Donnell (and maybe ogled him quite a bit :whistle:) but Callen is by far the most interesting character he's ever played.

Yes, I think I will binge watch NCIS: LA when I get the chance. :yes:

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So now we know
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G's name: Гриша Александрович Николаев / Grisha Aleksandrovich Nikolayev.



So that's his name... I wasn't expecting that, but then again I've got several season to catch up on. Maybe Netflix will throw it up on the queue, if they haven't already. ;D

I have watched an LA ep here and there, and Callen has always intrigued me. I've always loved Chris O'Donnell (and maybe ogled him quite a bit :whistle:) but Callen is by far the most interesting character he's ever played.

Yes, I think I will binge watch NCIS: LA when I get the chance. :yes:

I'm afraid it's now my "leave on all day in the background to babysit me" go-to, the way NCIS was up until about a year ago. (thanks to the cable stations that binge-show them in 5-12 hour chunks). Not that I ever follow the plot. I just hand around for the banter, and a shot of that dazzling smile Deeks can manage...

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:flirtysmile: Deeks does have quite the smile on him.

TBH, G is the NCIS LA character who interests me the least - it just comes off like they're trying too hard with the amount of stuff they've crowbarred into his backstory. I don't dislike him, I just find the others more believable and interesting.

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G's name: Гриша Александрович Николаев / Grisha Aleksandrovich Nikolayev.

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