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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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It was in chapter 23 (I had to go and look ;D ).

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haha thank you for looking for me ;D. That will make it easier for me to find :yes: ;D

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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It was easy to look up. I just opened up Thom and then searched for Farscape. Only one mention of it. ;D

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haha I didn't even think of doing it like that :P

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I'm all about making it easier. ;D

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Found it! haha. Using your brilliant method. ;D I wish I'd known when I first read it. haha Oh well. I do now ;D

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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Awk! Are you implying that this could really be Thom instead of Tim who survived? While that would be an interesting twist, I'd be very sad to think that Tim had died. :'(

I could accept that some aspects of Thom lived on in Tim, and that's why he seems a little different.

I love the way that Jimmy and Michelle play important roles in this story. They're just right for the part.

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Gulp!! I didn’t really want either of them to die, so I’m hoping that the changes in Tim are more to do with some kind of symbiosis, remnants of Thom left over when he decided he would be the one to ‘die’...leaving Tim with more elements of his ‘twin’ than he had before...or perhaps that’s just wishful thinking on my part.

Jimmy was terrific...I loved his reply to Tim’s ‘How are you feeling?’ question...and the fact that he was prepared to admit to Tim how much he had like Thom.

I look forward to seeing if Tim manages to find the words to explain to everyone what has happened to him...

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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That's what Jimmy and Michelle are wondering, Pam. It's hard to know when Tim is acting differently and not telling them why. Everything will get explained in the next chapter...which hopefully won't take so long to write. :) It's been interesting writing Jimmy and Michelle so extensively. I'm not sure if I really have their characters right...but I am trying. :)

You'll see, Mad. I figure that Jimmy's inappropriate and strange comments mostly come when he's trying to be funny. His jokes just don't quite work. :) ...but when he's just serious, there's not the same feeling. That's how I write him anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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Well, for one, this chapter brought the tears back to my eyes... Especially when Tim conjured up that image again of Tom's death... Or so it seems... In this chapter, nothing is what it seems. If this was your intention all along, then I congratulate you. If not, I still congratulate you, Teri. :jumpgreen:

We all sense something's off with Tim. I wouldn't have gone so far as to think as Jimmy and Michelle did: that it's Thom who survived and...lying about it. Nor do I believe Thom's truly dead.
Like Mad and Pam, I believe in a symbiosis of both personalities. Tim carries Thom in him and that, alongwith the total experience and his near death, has changed him to some extent.
We still don't know the magnitude of this change. Nor do we have an insight into Tim's awareness of this change: does he feel it himself, or question himself?

As usual, I beg for an :update:

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If you want a hint of what's going on, you can go back to Thom and read chapters 42 and 46. You can also reread chapter 2 of this story. You may not get it from that, but I'm tapping into things I've already introduced as concepts in this rather twisted universe. :) What has happened is something I'd planned for a while, but I hadn't decided how to introduce it until I wrote this chapter. ;D

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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Goodness gracious, Teri! This is fast becoming a 'Thom' readers club.
"Today, we will go back to chapters...and...discuss..."

I hope you will forgive my forgetfulness as I didn't really remember what this present chapter has in common with 42 & 45 of 'Thom' and 2 from 'Thom2'. I'll have to go back there, to know.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Thom 2
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If you want to wait for the next chapter, you'll see it...but if you don't want to wait, you can reread old chapters. :) There's a lot to remember in this story. I don't blame you for not remembering every detail. :)

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8 months later...a new chapter! ;D

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This was wonderfully touching, though still sad. I don't think that I ever told you, but while you were writing the original Thom story, I found it to be very melacholy...it really affected me then. Mind, I loved it, but there was a profound sadness to it; a world in which things could never be sunny.

Thom II is also sad, but I think there's more of a triumph of spirit in it, and a nobleness of character. The main sad thing about it now is that it will end. :)

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It's a rather melancholy situation, I know. Thom's death was something that had to happen, but it's not happy even so. It's a situation that necessitates some sadness. ...but there's a hint of the sun breaking through the clouds now. Perhaps the clouds won't ever go away, but there's still light.

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It’s really sad that Thom has died, even though we always knew one or other had to die so that the survivor could have a meaningful life, but I’m pleased that Tim has retained elements and memories from Thom, at least it feels as if Thom will still be around, smile and all! :D

Good to see Tim and Jimmy working together and to know that they haven’t forgotten there is unfinished business...super update Teri, I hope you do manage to finish this one soon(ish)! ;)

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It was the best way I could think of to have Thom "survive" in a way. Instead of Tim feeling the conflict and knowing that what he remembers never happened, he "gets" to remember Thom's life. Thom's life wasn't very happy in the end, but his life was real.

I'm glad you enjoyed the update. The waking of the unknown man has always been on my agenda as one of the last things to have happen in this story.

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New chapter! ...and believe it or not, all that remains is an epilogue.

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It had the feeling of just wanting an epilogue. ;D

I'm glad that things are working out for Tim. The inclusion of the man Jonathan was a good touch; it helped give Tim perspective. Tim will always have some doubt, I would think, but with the encouragement of his friends, they won't be so troublesome.

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Yep. My only problem will be figuring out just how to write the epilogue. I know what needs to go into it, but I don't quite know how to say it. I think I might be on the right track now, but hopefully, tomorrow will finally see this story completed.

Jonathan was the only possible way to have a real comparison between Tim and someone with a similar experience. Believe it or not, the hardest thing was figuring out his name. ;D Tim is fortunate in that he has friends who care so much. ...and that will be a great comfort to him. I suppose, after I post the epilogue to this story, you could go back and reread the epilogue for Thom which occurs a couple of years later. ;D

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I was so pleased to see Tim and Jimmy working together to bring Jonathan back to the waking world. Tim had some wise words for him, and I hope that with the assistance of his friends Tim can take some of his own words on board. Jonathan’s own awakening would have been a little less traumatic then Tim’s, after all he did not have to share his return with another living entity…

Lovely gentle get together at the end of the chapter, just what Tim needed I think, nothing too dramatic, just a chance to be with friends, and to learn to accept his life for what it is… :clap:

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Tim's situation is not easy, but he does have the answers. He just needs to listen to himself. :yes: And it's true that Jonathan had it easier than Tim did since he was simply being brought back into his own body.

I'm glad you liked the end of the chapter. I struggled a little with figuring out how to show some forward progress...and I did want it to be quiet and calm.

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Epilogue!

I hope it's satisfying. I really struggled with the best way to present things. :)

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Awwww...that was a nice ending. Sweet, and I was going to say, satisfying. It;s nice that Tim has come through all this in the best way possible, and leaves it all with a very positive feeling about Thom. It doesn't really matter whether Thom really was there in the end or not, although I like to think he was.

Beautiful story! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Thanks! I didn't want to say whether or not Thom was really there. Your choice...although I know what I think. ;D I'm glad you liked it.

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A beautiful conclusion Teri; dream or reality, that last encounter brings an entirely appropriate mood of reconciliation to this tale. And you leave us with a note of optimism, Tim being willing to share Thom’s love of and knowledge about the stars with his friends…and he remembers – superb! :clap: :clap:

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Thanks, Mad! That's what I was going for. I'm glad it worked. :yes: Tim opening up to everyone else about his new memories was the way I wanted to show his acceptance of his own reality.

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I added a small snippet of a scene to the epilogue if you want to read it. I was getting ready to put it up on ff.net and I realized that something was missing...at least to me. So I've rectified that. ;D

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